Here is a video about a percentage of families that believe in something called "Unschooling." It is somewhat like home schooling accept the parents lets their kids do whatever they want. REALLY. No rules, chores, discipline, time outs, text books. I am not quite sure what to think about it. Its a little bit bias I think towards it being negative but it does give you a interesting thought.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/health-15749655/extreme-parenting-radical-unschooling-19218933
Monday, April 19, 2010
Hw 50- Stuff
Against School
This was long so i read like a half to 3/4 of this. First it started out with the idea of bordem. Which is the main cause to faulty schooling. Students may seem like the mass amount of people who are the most bored, this is because they see school as unimportant. More specifically is the classes, they see that class is unimportant, not fun, that the work did not make any sense,basically what the teacher is not doing. But not only the students may seem like to be the ones that are bored during school hours, teachers seem to be getting bored of classes as well. And the reasons for the teacher's bordem is because of the student's lack of motivation. This guy also writes about some of his experiences (I am guessing he is really old as he retired teaching when I was just born) and some history about how public school teaching got it's philosophy which is primarily based around making good citizens.
This article was interesting at first but got boring. His idea that his grandfather taught him that everyone's bordem is their own fault and your the only one that can make things unboring. I kind of agree with this, whenever I'm bored at home for example all I do is complain about how bored I am when I could obviously do something to entertain myself. Although I feel it's so much easier to just be bored, this has a lot to do with laziness. I think the reasons students (speaking for myself I guess) get so bored in class is because of our disinterest with what we are learning in class. Students can usually blame the teachers for being so uninteresting and having uninteresting classes. And although students or I can never really see myself forcing to be interested in something. If I am truly unmotivated and in class it's usually because I do not have a common interest in what the class is about. I have been particularly relate able to this especially in senior year when at times I feel like nothing is fun enough, everything is forced, fake, etc. I feel like being a teenager we get bored easily. In the beginning of junior year I started to find new teachers with new teaching techniques and new things to learn. It caught my interest but now in senior year I grew bored quite quickly.
Six Lessons
Six Lessons is basically the ideas that this guy known as John Gotto has about his teachings and school. I am not quite sure if he is being sarcastic in his writing but either way this article is kind of sad. He writes about six lessons which seem more like 6 rules on what he expects from teaching/being a teacher. A lot of the rules that he states is what he expects from his students, in a way it seems as if he teaches middle school or something.It seems as if he teaches not because he enjoys it but it is merely just a job, something he gets payed for, something that he is good at because he has a degree in teaching English. His expectations include the students staying in order not because he expects them but because the school says so. He expects students to obey is commands quick as he has authority. He only teaches the students on school hours, as soon as class is over or the next class begins he basically describes it as shutting down as he is not expected to teach after school hours. He also touches on the idea that he does create his own curriculum which helps to fish out the good kids from the bad kids in class. Good kids in his opinion are willing to conform to what the class is suppose to be doing according to his curriculum. Bad kids will try to resist from conform, trying to make decisions for themselves. And most importantly is that he shows his authority and that he is always in charge and watching the students. He demands respect and that students should always be judged by their work.
For some reason these set of "lessons" makes me sad. To me this guy seems to only teach because he gets payed to do it. He describes in the beginning how school is kind of like a business. At times I agree with this. I feel at times most teachers only teacher not because they enjoy it but because it is a easy career to them. They only assign what they are told to do assign the students, and whether the students enjoy it or not (most cases not) the teachers job is to force the students to enjoy it and to enforce what they are suppose to do. This makes me wonder how many of the teachers that teach me think in the same way as these six lessons.
In the Paulo Freire reading is basically about the teacher who is the narrator or the knowlege giver and the student who is the receiver and basically just listen to the teacher's narrations like lifeless objects. Instead of students really gaining knowledge or learning, students seem to be forced to listen and memorize what the teacher says. Students do not get the ability to search for any creativity and don't have any critical consciousness. Education oppresses students to adapt to the world as they are deposited information into their heads.
I think this theory is definitely true mostly all the time. This reminds me of how every time there is some big test I tend to be forced to study. Every time I study it is not really me learning but I tend to notice that when I look down at notes and worksheets I am just processing the information into my head to memorize. So when I do take the test I am just splurging everything in my head into the test. Although I feel like background information is significant, sometimes memorizing information is not the same as learning about background information. I feel as if in every class there is something lacking. For example in social studies I lack general knowledge about things but we are able to be creative and have an opinion. In math and science it is mainly about memorizing things and receiving information. It lacks the part where we learn things on our own. And in english I am never sure what goes on.
For the Lisa Delpit readings, I read the short interview mainly because it was short and good enough to get information from, I had a long work orientation and develop a huge headache so I do not feel up for reading a huge text. This interview starts off with her idea that tests do not determine a child's brilliance. Teacher's should not and should be taught not to judge a student by their test taking skills because if they do they will misunderstand a students true learning potential.
Instead of tests she states that in order to discover a students true potential can be found through a student's art and their behavior outside of school. Although this seems as if she may be talking about small children I do agree that teachers and educational system should not always be primarily based on tests and finals to discover whether a child is learning. This is the part that seemed more significant to me.
In class we weren't able to interview Mr. Fanning but we were able to interview Cope. Most of the questions and information we got from this interview was mainly his view/ goals when teaching students and his opinion about super teacher films. It seems his views of good teaching is bringing social justice. Each teacher has a different way of going about this. He personally likes to teach his students about different oppressed groups. Maybe by teaching students about oppressed groups in the past they won't think to judge groups that are oppressed now.
When asking about Cope's opinion about "saving students" which has a lot to do with super teacher films he responded with "from what?". Although he is a teacher, not everyone knows all the knowledge there is in the world. Being a teacher he finds himself learning more. For example he needs to keep updated with the news and whats going on in society. Although he feels super teacher movies are ridiculous, archetypes are ridiculous. He has though learned from many times of students, but saying that you saved someone is pretentious.
I think his teaching and learning ideas are more realistic, it was better to actually hear a real teachers opinions and teaching styles and goal than to watch it through some unrealistic film. I thought it was amusing for him to ask what students should be saved from. Although he does say that hopefully by saying he saved someone its better to teach a student to be better then some kid causing trouble on the street which is ideally more realistic. I don't think one single teacher can save a room full of students from their own personal lifestyles if it may be troublesome but it is more realistic to teach the students something worth learning depending on the teacher. For Copeland its more about not passing judgment, he does this by teaching history about the oppressed.
This was long so i read like a half to 3/4 of this. First it started out with the idea of bordem. Which is the main cause to faulty schooling. Students may seem like the mass amount of people who are the most bored, this is because they see school as unimportant. More specifically is the classes, they see that class is unimportant, not fun, that the work did not make any sense,basically what the teacher is not doing. But not only the students may seem like to be the ones that are bored during school hours, teachers seem to be getting bored of classes as well. And the reasons for the teacher's bordem is because of the student's lack of motivation. This guy also writes about some of his experiences (I am guessing he is really old as he retired teaching when I was just born) and some history about how public school teaching got it's philosophy which is primarily based around making good citizens.
This article was interesting at first but got boring. His idea that his grandfather taught him that everyone's bordem is their own fault and your the only one that can make things unboring. I kind of agree with this, whenever I'm bored at home for example all I do is complain about how bored I am when I could obviously do something to entertain myself. Although I feel it's so much easier to just be bored, this has a lot to do with laziness. I think the reasons students (speaking for myself I guess) get so bored in class is because of our disinterest with what we are learning in class. Students can usually blame the teachers for being so uninteresting and having uninteresting classes. And although students or I can never really see myself forcing to be interested in something. If I am truly unmotivated and in class it's usually because I do not have a common interest in what the class is about. I have been particularly relate able to this especially in senior year when at times I feel like nothing is fun enough, everything is forced, fake, etc. I feel like being a teenager we get bored easily. In the beginning of junior year I started to find new teachers with new teaching techniques and new things to learn. It caught my interest but now in senior year I grew bored quite quickly.
Six Lessons
Six Lessons is basically the ideas that this guy known as John Gotto has about his teachings and school. I am not quite sure if he is being sarcastic in his writing but either way this article is kind of sad. He writes about six lessons which seem more like 6 rules on what he expects from teaching/being a teacher. A lot of the rules that he states is what he expects from his students, in a way it seems as if he teaches middle school or something.It seems as if he teaches not because he enjoys it but it is merely just a job, something he gets payed for, something that he is good at because he has a degree in teaching English. His expectations include the students staying in order not because he expects them but because the school says so. He expects students to obey is commands quick as he has authority. He only teaches the students on school hours, as soon as class is over or the next class begins he basically describes it as shutting down as he is not expected to teach after school hours. He also touches on the idea that he does create his own curriculum which helps to fish out the good kids from the bad kids in class. Good kids in his opinion are willing to conform to what the class is suppose to be doing according to his curriculum. Bad kids will try to resist from conform, trying to make decisions for themselves. And most importantly is that he shows his authority and that he is always in charge and watching the students. He demands respect and that students should always be judged by their work.
For some reason these set of "lessons" makes me sad. To me this guy seems to only teach because he gets payed to do it. He describes in the beginning how school is kind of like a business. At times I agree with this. I feel at times most teachers only teacher not because they enjoy it but because it is a easy career to them. They only assign what they are told to do assign the students, and whether the students enjoy it or not (most cases not) the teachers job is to force the students to enjoy it and to enforce what they are suppose to do. This makes me wonder how many of the teachers that teach me think in the same way as these six lessons.
In the Paulo Freire reading is basically about the teacher who is the narrator or the knowlege giver and the student who is the receiver and basically just listen to the teacher's narrations like lifeless objects. Instead of students really gaining knowledge or learning, students seem to be forced to listen and memorize what the teacher says. Students do not get the ability to search for any creativity and don't have any critical consciousness. Education oppresses students to adapt to the world as they are deposited information into their heads.
I think this theory is definitely true mostly all the time. This reminds me of how every time there is some big test I tend to be forced to study. Every time I study it is not really me learning but I tend to notice that when I look down at notes and worksheets I am just processing the information into my head to memorize. So when I do take the test I am just splurging everything in my head into the test. Although I feel like background information is significant, sometimes memorizing information is not the same as learning about background information. I feel as if in every class there is something lacking. For example in social studies I lack general knowledge about things but we are able to be creative and have an opinion. In math and science it is mainly about memorizing things and receiving information. It lacks the part where we learn things on our own. And in english I am never sure what goes on.
For the Lisa Delpit readings, I read the short interview mainly because it was short and good enough to get information from, I had a long work orientation and develop a huge headache so I do not feel up for reading a huge text. This interview starts off with her idea that tests do not determine a child's brilliance. Teacher's should not and should be taught not to judge a student by their test taking skills because if they do they will misunderstand a students true learning potential.
Instead of tests she states that in order to discover a students true potential can be found through a student's art and their behavior outside of school. Although this seems as if she may be talking about small children I do agree that teachers and educational system should not always be primarily based on tests and finals to discover whether a child is learning. This is the part that seemed more significant to me.
In class we weren't able to interview Mr. Fanning but we were able to interview Cope. Most of the questions and information we got from this interview was mainly his view/ goals when teaching students and his opinion about super teacher films. It seems his views of good teaching is bringing social justice. Each teacher has a different way of going about this. He personally likes to teach his students about different oppressed groups. Maybe by teaching students about oppressed groups in the past they won't think to judge groups that are oppressed now.
When asking about Cope's opinion about "saving students" which has a lot to do with super teacher films he responded with "from what?". Although he is a teacher, not everyone knows all the knowledge there is in the world. Being a teacher he finds himself learning more. For example he needs to keep updated with the news and whats going on in society. Although he feels super teacher movies are ridiculous, archetypes are ridiculous. He has though learned from many times of students, but saying that you saved someone is pretentious.
I think his teaching and learning ideas are more realistic, it was better to actually hear a real teachers opinions and teaching styles and goal than to watch it through some unrealistic film. I thought it was amusing for him to ask what students should be saved from. Although he does say that hopefully by saying he saved someone its better to teach a student to be better then some kid causing trouble on the street which is ideally more realistic. I don't think one single teacher can save a room full of students from their own personal lifestyles if it may be troublesome but it is more realistic to teach the students something worth learning depending on the teacher. For Copeland its more about not passing judgment, he does this by teaching history about the oppressed.
49-Class Film
Okay so apparently our class doesn't have the abilities to produce a class film because someone lost our tape or something, so I have to use the class A film. Which means I obviously was not able to participate in any making of this film. Although I wish I did have some sort of part in the film, it would have been fun.
I am not quite sure exactly what the message of the play is because I wasn't in the class but from watching the video it seems a little bit similar to the direction of what our class film was suppose to be like. Where the teacher is the one that seemed to be "saved". The teacher seemed to start out sad and depressed, he was drinking what I think is probably alcohol and it begins in some sort of dream sequence. In his dream he talks about poets, kids around him are laughing and goofing around but he seems to be able to get there attention by joking with them and relating what he was teaching to their lives. The fact that he was dreaming of this seems as if he wishes he was able to teach his class like this or maybe it is a memory of how he use to teach his class.
When woken up by a student asking if they were going to have class he brushes her off. This goes back to his real life, where his teaching skills don't seem to match up to his teaching skills or motivation in his dreams. And instead of trying to relate and teach to his students it seems as if he gave up. He has no more will to teach and just determines the faith of all the students based on their archetype. After insulting each of the students he completely gives up and walks out. None of the kids seem to care, probably because he didn't really try to make an impact.
If comparing this to a typical teacher film it seems that the first part of the short film where he was having a dream would be how a real typical teacher film would be like. Where at first the students would reject his authority but then the teacher gets their attention by kind of targeting the rebel or the most popular students. After that he kind of gets most of the students on his side.
When he wakes up the next day in the second sequence it kind of showed the opposite of a super teacher film. Instead of him using different tactics to relate to the students and start bonding with them he seems to gives up. It feels like he has a steaming hatred for the students and kind of tells them their path they will end up in. In most teacher films they are made aware of what their life can turn out in but the teacher is usually the one to let them know how they can "be saved". It seemed like this was like a harsh and probably unaffected way of doing that. And because the teacher gives up, and the students are made aware of their possible future, in the end the students just carry on not caring.
Well for one I am not sure if a teacher would ever get drunk and do that in real life, although I should say that cause you never know. There are some strange things that happen in school that I probably never know about. And I think if a teacher would go up to a student's face like that and insult them and tell them they were nothing they would probably talk back and say something. Although it depends on the teacher, if a really quite and mellow teacher were to one day just snap and tell a student that they were worthless then it would definitely be surprising and make some awkward silences.
Something that didn't happen in this film is someone being educated or realizing their true potentials. Students are kind of seen as roaches and pests. Kids who don't give a crap about their future. In most films the teacher and being in school is suppose to prevent teenagers from being total failures, at least that is what students are taught. By the teacher giving up on the students in the film it basically shows how the students have affected the teacher into being a drunk and not caring, while the students are just left to be failures in their lives. Education seems to always show that people need to be in school and pay attention or they will ruin someone's life including their own. Although I'm pretty sure this is not always true. :/
I am not quite sure exactly what the message of the play is because I wasn't in the class but from watching the video it seems a little bit similar to the direction of what our class film was suppose to be like. Where the teacher is the one that seemed to be "saved". The teacher seemed to start out sad and depressed, he was drinking what I think is probably alcohol and it begins in some sort of dream sequence. In his dream he talks about poets, kids around him are laughing and goofing around but he seems to be able to get there attention by joking with them and relating what he was teaching to their lives. The fact that he was dreaming of this seems as if he wishes he was able to teach his class like this or maybe it is a memory of how he use to teach his class.
When woken up by a student asking if they were going to have class he brushes her off. This goes back to his real life, where his teaching skills don't seem to match up to his teaching skills or motivation in his dreams. And instead of trying to relate and teach to his students it seems as if he gave up. He has no more will to teach and just determines the faith of all the students based on their archetype. After insulting each of the students he completely gives up and walks out. None of the kids seem to care, probably because he didn't really try to make an impact.
If comparing this to a typical teacher film it seems that the first part of the short film where he was having a dream would be how a real typical teacher film would be like. Where at first the students would reject his authority but then the teacher gets their attention by kind of targeting the rebel or the most popular students. After that he kind of gets most of the students on his side.
When he wakes up the next day in the second sequence it kind of showed the opposite of a super teacher film. Instead of him using different tactics to relate to the students and start bonding with them he seems to gives up. It feels like he has a steaming hatred for the students and kind of tells them their path they will end up in. In most teacher films they are made aware of what their life can turn out in but the teacher is usually the one to let them know how they can "be saved". It seemed like this was like a harsh and probably unaffected way of doing that. And because the teacher gives up, and the students are made aware of their possible future, in the end the students just carry on not caring.
Well for one I am not sure if a teacher would ever get drunk and do that in real life, although I should say that cause you never know. There are some strange things that happen in school that I probably never know about. And I think if a teacher would go up to a student's face like that and insult them and tell them they were nothing they would probably talk back and say something. Although it depends on the teacher, if a really quite and mellow teacher were to one day just snap and tell a student that they were worthless then it would definitely be surprising and make some awkward silences.
Something that didn't happen in this film is someone being educated or realizing their true potentials. Students are kind of seen as roaches and pests. Kids who don't give a crap about their future. In most films the teacher and being in school is suppose to prevent teenagers from being total failures, at least that is what students are taught. By the teacher giving up on the students in the film it basically shows how the students have affected the teacher into being a drunk and not caring, while the students are just left to be failures in their lives. Education seems to always show that people need to be in school and pay attention or they will ruin someone's life including their own. Although I'm pretty sure this is not always true. :/
Thursday, April 8, 2010
HW 48
So in class it seems that the direction for the class film in my class is more of where the teacher being "saved" or taught more by the students. I guess I see the teacher as being kind of unmotivated, he most likely feels the way students do when they wake up for school in the morning. So I just imagined a morning scene.
Morning.
The alarm sounds, beeping and beeping. Bob (or whatever name we end up giving the teacher) opens his eyes. The sun shines from his window and glares straight into his eyes. He squints and grunts with annoyance as he covers he shades his eyes with his hand. He slowly pulls himself up and tapping the alarm clock off. Bob feels tired and unmotivated to get up. Thinking to himself why he really needed to get up for the first day of work teaching high school juniors.
Eventually after a few seconds of thoughts and staring at the floor he gets up and grabs a pair of jeans and a button down shirt from his pile of clothing and throws it on. He slowly walks to the bathroom sliding his feel against the floor. In the bathroom he splashes some cold water on his face to wake himself up. Everything to him feels and looks hazy. He looks at himself in the mirror, widens his eyes and sighs.
After spending some time in the bathroom he head to the kitchen. Grabbing a bowl and a box of Cinnamon toast crunch cereal (or whatever cereal) and pours some cereal into the bowl. He turns to the fridge to get some milk but sudden realizes there is a note stuck onto the fridge. He squints his eyes and takes a closer look. "Be home late tonight...xoxo" it reads. He studies the note, thinking how his wife has been home late a lot lately. He then turns around and walks to the living room to sit and watch television, crunching on his breakfast. He frequently looks at the time,trying to use as much time as he can till the very last minute he has to leave for work. He figures if he could leave at the very last moment, just making him on time for work he won't have to be early dealing with the new loud and obnoxious set of kids.
And that is my crappy part/vision a part of the movie so far i guess. Man i suck...
Morning.
The alarm sounds, beeping and beeping. Bob (or whatever name we end up giving the teacher) opens his eyes. The sun shines from his window and glares straight into his eyes. He squints and grunts with annoyance as he covers he shades his eyes with his hand. He slowly pulls himself up and tapping the alarm clock off. Bob feels tired and unmotivated to get up. Thinking to himself why he really needed to get up for the first day of work teaching high school juniors.
Eventually after a few seconds of thoughts and staring at the floor he gets up and grabs a pair of jeans and a button down shirt from his pile of clothing and throws it on. He slowly walks to the bathroom sliding his feel against the floor. In the bathroom he splashes some cold water on his face to wake himself up. Everything to him feels and looks hazy. He looks at himself in the mirror, widens his eyes and sighs.
After spending some time in the bathroom he head to the kitchen. Grabbing a bowl and a box of Cinnamon toast crunch cereal (or whatever cereal) and pours some cereal into the bowl. He turns to the fridge to get some milk but sudden realizes there is a note stuck onto the fridge. He squints his eyes and takes a closer look. "Be home late tonight...xoxo" it reads. He studies the note, thinking how his wife has been home late a lot lately. He then turns around and walks to the living room to sit and watch television, crunching on his breakfast. He frequently looks at the time,trying to use as much time as he can till the very last minute he has to leave for work. He figures if he could leave at the very last moment, just making him on time for work he won't have to be early dealing with the new loud and obnoxious set of kids.
And that is my crappy part/vision a part of the movie so far i guess. Man i suck...
Tuesday, March 23, 2010
47 Class Film
I always kinda sucked at this kinda stuff. But I am excited and looking more forward to this then anything we've been doing. I'll be fun :)
*One idea we seem to bring up in my class is basically switching rolls. In a lot of the films we see its the teacher "saving" the students. But we wanna see the students save the teacher.
*I think i'd be cool to figure out whether we want this to work or not, meaning does the teacher get "saved" or does he just end up failing.
*I'd be cool if the teacher had some type of problem, I see this in movies all the time. Like the main character is a lonely soul, or he has a drug problem, or or or he has trouble at home. Some cheesey thing like that.
*I don't quite know what kinda tone I would think the movie would be but it always depends on my mood so that doesn't really help at all. Its 2am right now and I'm feeling kinda mellow, sleepy, and my eyes sting so I'd probably want the movie to have that type of mellow and sleepy hollow tone to it just cause that is how I'm feeling write this post at the moment. If I was in a happy mood I'd probably want it to have more of a comic feel to the movie. Something like Superbad but probably more PG would be fun.
*So in every movie there is always some climax or some big conflict that happens just as everything seems to be going well. Like just as soon as the teacher or the students seem to be finding peace and are all getting along, something comes in to totally shoot it down to rock bottom where the characters are tested to see if they can climb back up, reviving themselves once more.
*We should also maybe follow that trope of the badass rebel kid, but maybe are movie the kid would be seen more of someone who pushes the teacher and challenges him where the teacher realizes he can teach more then just what the books tell him/her.
*One idea we seem to bring up in my class is basically switching rolls. In a lot of the films we see its the teacher "saving" the students. But we wanna see the students save the teacher.
*I think i'd be cool to figure out whether we want this to work or not, meaning does the teacher get "saved" or does he just end up failing.
*I'd be cool if the teacher had some type of problem, I see this in movies all the time. Like the main character is a lonely soul, or he has a drug problem, or or or he has trouble at home. Some cheesey thing like that.
*I don't quite know what kinda tone I would think the movie would be but it always depends on my mood so that doesn't really help at all. Its 2am right now and I'm feeling kinda mellow, sleepy, and my eyes sting so I'd probably want the movie to have that type of mellow and sleepy hollow tone to it just cause that is how I'm feeling write this post at the moment. If I was in a happy mood I'd probably want it to have more of a comic feel to the movie. Something like Superbad but probably more PG would be fun.
*So in every movie there is always some climax or some big conflict that happens just as everything seems to be going well. Like just as soon as the teacher or the students seem to be finding peace and are all getting along, something comes in to totally shoot it down to rock bottom where the characters are tested to see if they can climb back up, reviving themselves once more.
*We should also maybe follow that trope of the badass rebel kid, but maybe are movie the kid would be seen more of someone who pushes the teacher and challenges him where the teacher realizes he can teach more then just what the books tell him/her.
HW 46
So I ended up giving up on finding a book and just somewhat read Catcher in the Rye. I wasn't really excited to read this in the first place and was not excited trying to get my way through it either. It was kind of boring to be a seemed a little bit unrealistic but maybe that what the book seemed to be like. But to be honest I did not finish the book because for some reason it annoyed me and I roll through what I did read.
To make a short summary the book was about a guy named Holden who is kind of an exaggerated failure kid who goes to some school known as Pency.Im not really sure where that is but I think it is somewhere around New York because he travels there later on. Hes one of those kids who generally seem to not give a crap about school. He seems to judge everyone and get annoyed at everyone a lot. There is a whole bunch of what seems to be like teenager drama around the beginning of the story like whether his roommate had sex with some girl he likes, Jane. After having a fight with his roommate he decides to quit school and go to New York.
In New York he stays at some Hotel. In the Hotel he watches people outside his window that he can see in other rooms and they do really unusual things like cross dressing and doing weird sexual things. He calls some girl that he wants to get to have sex with him and gets annoyed and just hangs up. I didn't really get the point to this part of book but I guess its maybe to show more of Holden's character.
Later on after going out and being foolish and then going back to the Hotel he ends up hiring a prostitute that the elevator operator at the Hotel suggests for him. As the prostitute Sunny starts to prepare herself for sex Holden begings to kind of hesitate I guess and starts to just talk to her. He ends up making excuses so he does not have to have sex and offers to pay her anyways for her services. She tries to convince him but he resists and she just gets annoyed and goes to Marice to try to get Holden to pay more money. Marice beats him up and the prostitute takes 5 dollars. And this is where I kinda left off at.
This book seems over exaggerated. Its as if its saying if you do bad in school and drop out you'll become like this kid, sad, kinda rude, and being beat up by some prostitute's pimp. It shows a lot of the experiences of what being a student is like although it kinda seems a little over exaggerated to me.
To make a short summary the book was about a guy named Holden who is kind of an exaggerated failure kid who goes to some school known as Pency.Im not really sure where that is but I think it is somewhere around New York because he travels there later on. Hes one of those kids who generally seem to not give a crap about school. He seems to judge everyone and get annoyed at everyone a lot. There is a whole bunch of what seems to be like teenager drama around the beginning of the story like whether his roommate had sex with some girl he likes, Jane. After having a fight with his roommate he decides to quit school and go to New York.
In New York he stays at some Hotel. In the Hotel he watches people outside his window that he can see in other rooms and they do really unusual things like cross dressing and doing weird sexual things. He calls some girl that he wants to get to have sex with him and gets annoyed and just hangs up. I didn't really get the point to this part of book but I guess its maybe to show more of Holden's character.
Later on after going out and being foolish and then going back to the Hotel he ends up hiring a prostitute that the elevator operator at the Hotel suggests for him. As the prostitute Sunny starts to prepare herself for sex Holden begings to kind of hesitate I guess and starts to just talk to her. He ends up making excuses so he does not have to have sex and offers to pay her anyways for her services. She tries to convince him but he resists and she just gets annoyed and goes to Marice to try to get Holden to pay more money. Marice beats him up and the prostitute takes 5 dollars. And this is where I kinda left off at.
This book seems over exaggerated. Its as if its saying if you do bad in school and drop out you'll become like this kid, sad, kinda rude, and being beat up by some prostitute's pimp. It shows a lot of the experiences of what being a student is like although it kinda seems a little over exaggerated to me.
HW 45
I read part of what I could for E. D. Hirsch’s Curriculum for Democracy. Besides from being kinda a time line of what Hirsch did. Hirsch theory is the idea that in order to have full advantage of something such as reading an article or a book we must have full knowledge and facts first. Students need to have more common knowledge first then they would be able to progress and be better thinkers. He is against the fact that students should teach themselves, students should be taught more of the facts and have more knowledge on subjects like the history, science, etc. It basically talks about how Hirsch idea of having knowledge is better. For example is when the writer asked a bunch of kids about the civil war and in return the children has no clue what he was speaking of or what the civil war really was despite being in what was known be be one of the best schools. When complaining the school shot back saying "Our kids don’t need to learn about the Civil War. What they are learning at P.S. 87 is how to learn about the Civil War." I guess in Hirsch perspective he would say that the kids couldn't learn HOW to learn about the Civil war without knowing what it is in the first place.
In the Faculty Shack reading which talks a lot about the list of principles which includes main points like learning to use your mind well, depth of coverage, basically that kids should be taught the skills on how to learn better rather then just be given facts and information. Sizer first researched about what was insufficient in schools it seemed before figure out the main principles for teaching students. Although many agreed with the fact that "students need to learn how to use their minds well" it seems that the outcome is what he described as "machine that they designed and operated" that was supposedly suppose to achieve this but in reality it doesn't. Which in result is why the principles were created.
At first I figure that Sizer's idea is what I agreed with most. I definetly think that students need to be taught skills to learn think logically and have the skills to actually learn better. This is something that I think I was always taught being in SOF. Although after thinking about it a lot I also kinda agree with Hirsch's theory too. Mainly because in many classes, especially social studies I tend to find my self unaware of what the teacher is talking about at times. The fact that I lack so much knowledge really puts me at a disadvantage or being able to learn or do things without actually bullshitting it sometimes. Or sometimes I just find myself doing it the way I see. Kinda like monkey see monkey do. This is definitely negative for me because it actually makes me feel stupid at times sadly. I feel dump or not as "educated" as other students who can practically say a whole time line accurately of a certain time period or something. I kind of wish I was taught more knowledge on certain subjects, that way the teachers can then teach us skills on learning and guiding us with everything else. I'm not agree with just telling us what to do and students just doing it or waiting for the answer which in most cases is like that in many classes. But some common knowledge could have probably definitely help me a lot, especially in feeling less stupid in my time in school.
In the Faculty Shack reading which talks a lot about the list of principles which includes main points like learning to use your mind well, depth of coverage, basically that kids should be taught the skills on how to learn better rather then just be given facts and information. Sizer first researched about what was insufficient in schools it seemed before figure out the main principles for teaching students. Although many agreed with the fact that "students need to learn how to use their minds well" it seems that the outcome is what he described as "machine that they designed and operated" that was supposedly suppose to achieve this but in reality it doesn't. Which in result is why the principles were created.
At first I figure that Sizer's idea is what I agreed with most. I definetly think that students need to be taught skills to learn think logically and have the skills to actually learn better. This is something that I think I was always taught being in SOF. Although after thinking about it a lot I also kinda agree with Hirsch's theory too. Mainly because in many classes, especially social studies I tend to find my self unaware of what the teacher is talking about at times. The fact that I lack so much knowledge really puts me at a disadvantage or being able to learn or do things without actually bullshitting it sometimes. Or sometimes I just find myself doing it the way I see. Kinda like monkey see monkey do. This is definitely negative for me because it actually makes me feel stupid at times sadly. I feel dump or not as "educated" as other students who can practically say a whole time line accurately of a certain time period or something. I kind of wish I was taught more knowledge on certain subjects, that way the teachers can then teach us skills on learning and guiding us with everything else. I'm not agree with just telling us what to do and students just doing it or waiting for the answer which in most cases is like that in many classes. But some common knowledge could have probably definitely help me a lot, especially in feeling less stupid in my time in school.
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